Prncez commented...
10/6/2008 - 14:21
the last email he sent to you was just chilling. It makes no sense at all. I highly doubt if you will receive a response to your last email.
Traegorn commented...
10/6/2008 - 14:47
I doubt I will either, which is why I published this. I figured my best defense was publishing everything that had happened.

No one can say I didn't provide full disclosure on this one.
Prncez commented...
10/6/2008 - 15:03
I copied and pasted the following comment from Dantalion's website:

"Trae is the evil creature who creates forums as per the Ashia Haadi report, his forums bad mouth every spell casting website on the net apart from ones owned by him."

ME:
Now, anyone with half a brain that reads that statement would wonder to themselves, "Really, mmmm...ummm...well if he bad mouths every spell casting website apart from his, than why would he bad mouth fastspells and spelllock which apparently are websites run by him?"

Mama always said
Insanity is as Insanity does.
Traegorn commented...
10/6/2008 - 15:22
On a Reynolds/Bucklin note -- I want to point out that since this article went up, SpellLock.com's address has changed from 5007C Victory Blvd, #271, Yorktown, VA 23692 in Virginia to 848 N. Rainbow Blvd, #2371, Las Vegas, NV 89107 US in Nevada.

Very convenient that.
Scrotorius commented...
10/6/2008 - 18:42
Now I'm curious. The majority of the site seems to be pretty well organized, but that one page is psychotic. Why is one section completely bat shit and the rest coherent?

Why is the scam warnings page organized as a rebuttal to a section of his own website? If these are lies, why not just erase them?

If he was that bat shit, why is the rest of the well organized?

There is a distinct difference in functionality between the two. You'll note the disorganized nature of speech in the rip-off report page, the absence of the distinctive red sigils, and the white background.

Did a different person make the rest of the site? Maybe professionally? Did this person suffer some sort of psychotic break?
Prncez commented...
10/6/2008 - 20:29
You are right. The majority of FD's website is very well organized and informative. It does seem like the Response to the Rip off Report page is out of the ordinary. However, there is no doubt that it was written by FD since you have to have a password in order to log into your website and make changes. Lets just assume for the fun of it that someone actually "hijacked" his internet page and posted all of those comments. FD would have noticed it by now and deleted the page. Furthermore, FD will make it a point to update his clients or web visitors of this. I do have suspicions that FD did not post some of those comments on the Rip Off Reports based off comparisons of the name entry and because those reports are not really verified. I think thats the work of someone else who just copied and pasted the information from his website.
Prncez commented...
10/6/2008 - 20:52
I would like to address the "psychotic break" question. I think he is having some sort of psychotic meltdown. Just look at the last email he sent to Trae, I mean he used words like "shag planet" and my new favorite statement of the year "shit tank with a fat arse" (I actually yelled that statement out loud at the T.V this evening when I was watching Politics.) Reading the last email sent by FD to Trae is just down right chilling. I keep reading that email over and over again trying to figure out what he is trying to say and I just can't make sense out of any of it. It's almost as if he has a bit of Paranoid Schizophrenia going on.
Shag Planet commented...
10/7/2008 - 15:19
WOW That guy Frater is completely psycho.
I feel sorry for people who paid him to do spells. He a loon and a scammer.
Shag Planet commented...
10/7/2008 - 15:21
ASHIA kiss kiss Haaaaaaaaaaa
WTH does that even mean.
Prncez commented...
10/7/2008 - 16:09
He has updated his web page as of today. He is now claiming that Trae is posting "doctored" versions of his web page. Say it ain't so Trae. Say it ain't so. Has Dantalion been possessed or something? For the record, Trae has not doctored any pages. That information was posted on Dantalion's website and was subsequently posted on ROR. I know that for a fact.
Traegorn commented...
10/8/2008 - 11:06
He's written another "Final" update as well.

I'll post an update to this article later today detailing some of the craziness.
Prncez commented...
10/8/2008 - 16:11
Maybe he's chanting some spells to you via email. He has lost his rabbit azz mind. I have read his updated webpage which shows that he still thinks its you who is behind this spell casting website scandal. Can the real owners of the websites he accuses you of owning sue him for slander or something? He's treading on thin ice.
Prncez commented...
10/8/2008 - 21:07
Oh my "Spoiled Brat" from the Rip Off Reports is rather ticked off.

http://www.[URL REDACTED].[DOMAIN]/reports/0/329/RipOff0329157.htm

I posted a response in regards to all of this on ROR. Hopefully they post it after midnight.

I basically think that Dantalion selected a random Username. But he did not utilize ANY Username, he made it a point to get a name from the Psychic or Spells Section of the ROR's. I think the reason he selected someone from this particular section was because he always indicates that other spell casters create havoc for their competitors on the ROR. In addition, he has been screaming for days that someone is causing him problems and bad mouthing him. He also thought this would create doubt in some of his clients minds and make them belief that someone is really out to get him. But, he did a sloppy job. He associates you with witchcraftspellsnow.com which is a spell casting website owned by TASHA PALLIDINO. You can clearly find her information all over the web. It is clear that ya'll are not associated. He made another foolish error in which the real Spoiled Brat pointed out he forgot to change the freaking country (laughing my ass off at that one) Like I said on my response on the ROR. Why would someone post under your name and admit that they are doing it, and than come back with their supposed REAL USERNAME and admit. "hey, it was me" tee-hee tee hee. Hello...are we putting 2 and 2 together yet people???

I don't know what to say anymore about Dantalion.

meep commented...
10/9/2008 - 9:32
Okay, the guy's clearly delusional if he honestly believes you are connected with any of those sites. And anyone who genuinely looks through them will see that pretty much right away. The garbage he sent you, minus a few references to your actual name come off pretty much as spam email more than anything. My assumption is that he's just trying to portray himself as a lunatic so you'll be afraid of him.

My suggestion? Route all of his emails to a folder, grab snapshots of his bats*** crazy page and just generally document. Don't post any new info here for a while. Lay low. He'll probably go away once he realizes the target of his delusions isn't paying attention to him. If he's still going at it in, say, 6 months then unleash an onslaught of evidence about it and link to it on ROR. The most important part is to not react. No posts, no emails, no nothing.

Meep
Traegorn commented...
10/9/2008 - 12:26
Normally I would, but it seems like the more I get him to talk, the more I get him to admit.

He's sloppier than he thinks.
Prncez commented...
10/9/2008 - 13:59
Is it safe for me to assume that you took the video showing proof that the emails were from Dantalion at your house or apt? If so, than I must say that you are living rather modestly for someone who owns over 30 scam websites.

One has to ask themselves (especially if you are a client of Dantalion's) Where does he find the time to send you all these emails, update his webpage a gizillion times, and cast spells?
SultrySkeptic commented...
10/9/2008 - 22:42
Have searched his name, and different forms of his name several times (including google.co.uk)...come up with nothing.
Traegorn commented...
10/10/2008 - 9:29
It looks like "Frater Dantalion" has now removed http://www.black-magic-spells.co.uk/ripoffreport.html from his webpage, as well as the link to http://www.black-magic-spells.co.uk/scam_warnings.html
Prncez commented...
10/10/2008 - 10:04
Good thing you saved those pages or else you wouldn't have had any proof.
And to think I was actually going to pay my hard earned money to take one of his witchcraft courses. I am so glad this has all happened. I wish I would have received this same type of warning before wasting over $500 with fastspells.com. But thats what life is about right? It's a learning experience. We have to make mistakes in order to learn from them.
SultrySkeptic commented...
10/10/2008 - 21:32
Are any of these people who cast spells on the net legit?
Traegorn commented...
10/11/2008 - 9:45
Well, there MIGHT be, but I doubt it. I will say there are probably legitimate (in the sense that they believe in what they are doing) Tarot readers, seers, psychics and the like.

Spell casters is a different thing. There's an overall attitude in most of the genuine Wiccan and Neopagan community that charging for that sort of thing is not acceptable. I will say if someone is claiming to be a Wiccan and charging money I'd be shocked to find they weren't a scam. A Wiccan might charge for a class or a workshop - or a tarot reading - but they aren't going to charge for a spell.

Most also aren't going to cast magick for a stranger either.

So, I'd say I don't expect any internet spell casters to be doing anything more than taking people's money and laughing on the way to the bank.
SultrySkeptic commented...
10/12/2008 - 3:33
Funny, I went to that blog he mentioned...the list on there seems pretty similar to the one he accuses you of having something to do with...(Posts are marked from 2007)

http://www.aisha-haadi.com/
Prncez commented...
10/12/2008 - 13:09
He has updated his page once again. He claims that you are obsessed with him. He also claimed that he was going to pretend like you didn't exist anymore after Oct 9 since he has clients to tend to, but yet, he posts another silly comment on ROR and his website. Something is really wrong with that man.
Prncez commented...
10/12/2008 - 18:08
You are soooo right Sultry Sceptic, that website list is very similar to what he accuses Trae of running. Dantalion documented that Trae is or has gone under the name Jens J, but Aisha Haadi has confirmed on her website that Jens J is a 33 year old living in Kiesta Sweden, married and has 2 kids. Mmmmmmm.... doesn't fit Trae's description at all.
Ironically, Dantalion documented "I hope he gets help soon" referring to Trae...Oh contraire Dantalion, WE HOPE YOU GET HELP SOON.
SultrySkeptic commented...
10/13/2008 - 19:06
What sucks is that there is no legal recourse for these people in most cases. Hell, you would think all the gypsy psychics would get busted with their fraudulent activities but they are able to simply get out of town before their gig is up. On the web? Even easier.

I know everyone needs to make a living, but regardless of what you believe, its still wrong to scam people.
meep commented...
10/17/2008 - 16:34
I've replied to any of the Rip off Reports that mentioned you saying, essentially, that all you need to do to prove who is telling the truth here is watch FD's site. Like I say on ROR, you can change your site to 'prove' your case, but you can't change your site to prove you don't change your site.

It seems, from the comments, that no one buys FD's garbage anyway, as well they shouldn't, so I guess I'm watching the drama unfold more out of shear amusement at this point than anything.
meep commented...
10/17/2008 - 16:48
Oh, and as a spellcasting pagan I gotta agree with Trae. There's pretty much no chance any person claiming to be wiccan or neo-pagan is running a spell scam site.

Furthermore, I sincerely doubt any sites, whether or not they claim to be Wiccan, are actually genuinely doing anything, more or less anything that will actually accomplish your goal.

There are tons of pagan communities out there. If you really think a spell is what you need (I don't necessarily agree with you, but hey go for it), make some friends there and see if somewhere along the line someone will help you. They'll have a lot of discussion about the ethics of your intended working, and chances are they will probably spend a lot of time trying to get you to solve your problem through other means.

Most witches/pagans are in it for the religion and view spells as a sort of prayer, but with more of a component of personal will. That's why it isn't likely to do much, even if they are legitimate spell casters. It's their will not yours and even if they really really want to help, it's still not the same as your desire for it to work.

Now, there are mystical traditions outside of Wicca, but their practitioners are pretty few and far between and they are ususally pretty secretive. So chances are, they won't be running spells for hire sites either. As a religious neo-pagan, I question their ethics as well.
SultrySkeptic commented...
10/19/2008 - 2:11
I'm happy to help research some more of these. It's utterly fascinating.

FD has been quiet lately...surprised his site is still up. Isn't this usually when the sites are taken down? Fastspells is down for maintenance and everything, alas...
Traegorn commented...
10/19/2008 - 15:07
Well, with Fastspells.com the site got thousands of views from the Consumerist. This time around, we just had my audience... plus, we still really don't know who is on the other end of the e-mail address in this case.
Prncez commented...
10/20/2008 - 15:56
FD has now posted a comment indicating that Meep is Trae, and that he will be sending a picture of Trae to ROR so he can be avoided in the streets. I seriously doubt anyone actually believes this man. What trips me out is the fact that he goes on and on about Trae owning all of these websites, and how everyone who says anything negative about him is automatically Trae but doesn't provide any proof what so ever. It's a bunch of heresay. I'm with Trae, I don't know whether to just laugh or roll my eyes at this point.
Traegorn commented...
10/20/2008 - 20:54
Meep's a friend of mine I've known for almost a decade. That's pretty funny.

This is me:


This is (an ancient picture of) Meep:


He's Blond with bad vision and I'm dark haired with 20/20 vision.

Not a big resemblance. :P

Also, for the record, this is Glenn Danzig:


Also, for the record, this is the back of my van:


Just in case anyone was confused.
meep commented...
10/22/2008 - 9:23
What a horrible picture of me. I believe that was in the autograph line for Tiffany Grant back at the last WestCon (may it rest in peace). I gotta say, we had quite the operation for being entirely auxilliary to the con itself.

Meeeeeemorieeeeeees

Meep (the guy in the photo)
Prncez commented...
10/22/2008 - 10:29
"Mandy" and "Belly Boy" have been proven to be the same individual on ROR (Dantalion) I found it quite interesting that this Mandy person spelled the word "realize" as "realise" which is evidence that the person who wrote the report is from the UK although they claim to be from New Orleans.
meep commented...
11/12/2008 - 13:13
Dantalion has been really quiet on these issues of late. It's kinda nice actually. Let's hope he was arrested (that's not wishing ill on others, btw, it's quite literally what he deserves).

So a fond farewell to unrestrained crazy, I hope.

BTW, I'm beginning to suspect his emails were a sad attempt at scaring you into thinking he was casting black magic curses on you. Or perhaps he's just crazy. Or C. All of the above.