Some days you wonder why you get out of bed in the morning. The day I first corresponded with "Frater Dantalion" of Black Magic Spells was one of those days. Never have I gotten such a headache from someone who I didn't really give a damn about before. Never before have I had to waste so much time on an insane, bizarre nutjob like this before. Never have I put up with so much crap giving someone a chance to make something right before.
For those of you who read my site regularly, you may recall the previous article I wrote about the scam website Fastspells.com and the one that preceded it. I am a firm believer that any website that charges you money for spell casting is, with out a doubt, a scam just trying to separate you from your money. I went specifically after Fastspells.com because they were also lying about who was running the website -- there was no way for a victim to get retribution or justice.
That article got quite a bit of traffic in no small part to it being featured on The Consumerist, and needless to say fairly high in search engine results for Fastspells.com.
Now, I pay hawkish attention to my referral logs, mostly for the occasional laugh, but in part just to see where on the internet people are coming from. One day, the site "black-magic-spells.co.uk" came up in the log, and I was curious. I had written about some spell casters, and now it looked like a spell caster was writing about me.
I knew it wouldn't be good.
What I ran across was an article by "Frater Dantalion" which I've archived here. It was a long diatribe about how some guy named "Jens Johansson" was both harassing Frater Dantalion and other spell casters while simultaneously running a large number of scam websites. Now, the only Jens Johansson I've ever heard of is a heavy metal keyboardist, but that's not the point. The bit that interested me was at the bottom, where he posted an "update." This update claimed that "Jens" was behind Fastspells.com as well as behind my article debunking them.
It seriously made zero sense on any level.
And I should have just let it pass. I should have said "This guy is crazy" and let it go. But then I saw that he mentioned some site named "SpellLock.com" as the new Fastspells.com front... and I had to check it out.
SpellLock.com was registered between the publication of my two Fastspells.com articles. For those who remember, Fastspells.com is run by three people: Brittney and Kevin Reynolds who currently reside in San Antonio, TX, and Andrew Bucklin who lives in the area of Newport News, VA. I honestly didn't go all that deep, but the address associated with SpellLock.com's Google Checkout Account is about a seven minute drive from Mr. Bucklin.
I think we have a winner.
So I got curious. How did Frater Dantalion know this was Fastspells.com? What tipped him off? Did someone e-mail him? I just absolutely had to know. This was where I made my mistake. This is where my limitless curiosity overcame my "This guy is crazy, stay away" instinct.
Just for reference, never let ANYTHING overcome your "This guy is crazy, stay away" instinct.
So, in my stupidity, I decided to send Frater Dantalion a message to correct him about his article. I went to his "Contact Me" page and sent the following text:
To: Frater Dantalion
From: Trae Dorn
Subject: Form Submission
I'm contacting you because I run the website https://www.trhonline.com/
I was looking through my referral logs when I ran across this on your website: http://www.black-magic-spells.co.uk/ripoffreport.html
I can honestly say that I have no idea who Jens Johansson is, and am not really sure what it has to do with my article about Fastspells.com.
The owners and operators of Fastspells.com were most definitely a group of kids in their 20s, and I'm fairly certain they aren't connected to anyone else. They're a distinct group of people.
Also, the reason there are a slew of responses is because the article got featured on the consumerist.com, a fairly well read blog on the Gawker network. I don't know about the issues you've had with a person named Jens Johansson, but I can honestly tell you that none of the players in the Fastspells.com incident have anything to do with him or her.
And most definitely none of them are me.
That said, I'm curious to ask how you came across Spelllock.com - the mailing address they use is located within seven miles of one of the Fastspells.com scammers, so it actually does look to be connected to them.
-Trae Dorn
https://www.trhonline.com/
I thought that it was simple, non-inflamatory, and overall a fairly inoffensive way to contact the guy.
I forgot I was dealing with a crazy person.
I was lulled into a false sense of security when he sent back a rather civil response too:
To: Trae Dorn
From: Frater Dantalion
Subject: Re: Form Submission
Dear Trae,
A google search for 'love spells' produced spelllock.com but how I connected it to Jens and fastspells.com I am keeping under my hat.
I have removed my comments about fastspells.com from my website - for now, not because I think I am wrong, not at all, indeed I believe he posted the anti fastspells comments on your website and on ROR.
A frightened 22 year old would not take fastspells.com down one day and replace it by spelllock.com the next - it is business as usual for JJ.
Best wishes,
Frater Dantalion
Dantalion then followed it up by removing the "Update" seen on the bottom of the article. Now, if I'd been even half smart, I would have left it alone here (if I had been FULLY smart, I never would have contacted the guy). The problem is, and I'm sure that most of my friends would agree, I have this annoying need to be right. It gets me into more trouble than it's worth... and it happened again. I had to make Frater Dantalion understand...
To: Frater Dantalion
From: Trae Dorn
Subject: Re Form Submission
You don't understand -- Brittney's personal cellphone number was discovered by one of my readers. It was then posted to my website and got called repeatedly. She had the sites taken down because she was getting personally harassed at home. I know this because she called my web hosting provider in a panic (from the same number) and tried to threaten them. The person who found her cellphone number was able to do so because I had found her name, an address, and her date of birth -- and he cross referenced public records.
Fastspells.com was a scam run by three people -- Kevin Reynolds, Brittney Reynolds, and Andrew Bucklin. That's it.
Mr. and Mrs. Reynolds are originally from Virginia but live in Texas, while Mr. Bucklin is still based in Virginia. Brittney Reynolds is 21, while Kevin and Andrew are 22. We've found records of hosting, along with MySpace pages and photos to back these claims up.
Spelllock.com was registered after my first article about Fastspells.com was launched (which didn't expose anyone's identity, but bad mouthed their site) but prior to my second article (which actually told people who they were). I'm not absolutely sure it's them -- but as the address is near Mr. Bucklin (who wasn't discovered until after the initial amount of traffic on the article had died down).
I'm also fairly certain you're wrong about the people who commented on my article. Most came over from The Consumerist, and the rest were already readers of my website. There is no conspiracy there, trust me.
-Trae
See how stupid I was? This was not my brightest move. I didn't get a response to it, and went about my business thinking the entire affair was over.
But it wasn't.
One of my readers who I've e-mailed back and forth with quite a bit (who was a former Fastspells.com customer looking at different Magick sites) ran across Frater Dantalion's website. In place of the article I had already posted... she found this version instead.
That's right, now the entire article claimed that I was running the myriad of spell casting websites. That's right, me. They guy who says "Never buy spells from people" was apparently the grand scammer. It was utter insanity. He also picked probably the least flattering image of me he could find, which is really just sort of... funny. I think he was trying to make me look silly - but honestly, I put up the video he got the screen grab from myself. I make myself look stupid all the time on purpose... he really doesn't need to help me.
But it gets better, apparently, I was running Fastspells.com -- and THEN exposed it. And then I was running SpellLock.com too, which apparently I shut down. First off, I have never been involved with any of these websites, and secondly... as of the time I posted this article, SpellLock.com was very much operational.
Dantalion also claimed in the new draft of the article that I was repeatedly harassing him via e-mail. I had sent him a total of two e-mails EVER and I'm fairly certain that neither was harassing (you tell me). The funny thing is, Frater Dantalion keeps oscillating between calling me a scammer and then saying I harass spell casters... but since I think all spell casters are scammers, is he implying that I just sit around all day harassing myself?
It's very confusing.
Needless to say, I was furious. Righteous indignation took me, and I quickly wrote this e-mail to Frater Dantalion:
To: Frater Dantalion
From: Trae Dorn
Subject: Well then.
I received an e-mail today pointing me towards your newest update on http://www.black-magic-spells.co.uk/ripoffreport.html
Very cute. What you have posted though is absolute and complete libel.
For one, I am not involved in any of the scam sites you claim I am.
Secondly, I had no idea who you were until you linked to my site last week and it showed up in my referral logs.
Thirdly, I have never written anything about you... ever. Ever ever. And honestly, I had no real intention to.
Fourthly, I have never, in my life posted to Ripoffreport[dot]com.
Fifthly, Until our recent exchange, I have NEVER E-MAILED YOU IN MY LIFE.
Seriously - what the heck is wrong with you?
Also, if I were behind Fastspells.com I wouldn't be f***ing broke.
-Trae Dorn
Okay, I'll admit, I didn't censor the swear in my original e-mail. The next day I got the following response:
To: Trae Dorn
From: Frater Dantalion
Subject: Re: Well then.
Dear Trae,
OMG, but this will be sorted :) That evil bastard Ed Magedson needs exposing 'big time' - him and Fastspells.com need a boot up the ass for what they have done here.
No you haven't uttered a syllable about me, but Brittney Reynolds's side kick Andrew Bucklin is taking the piss - a would be ED M if you ask me.
I too have exposed the evil trio http://www.black-magic-spells.co.uk/ripoffreport.html
They have hijacked my name and posted negative reports on ROR, it says on the net Ed M demands $50 K for postings to be removed.
Frater Dantalion
For someone I was apparently harassing, his tone had surely changed. Upon looking at the ever fluctuating article, I was greeted with a new draft as well.
This new (and significantly shorter) draft stated that I, apparently, was a god damned hero for exposing Fastspells.com, and that Andrew Bucklin (one of the Fastspells.com scammers) was apparently his new boogeyman. Frater Dantalion all but tried to buy me roses with his sweet talk. Also, Bucklin apparently had tried to buy services from Dantalion according to this new version... Of course, Andrew Bucklin was a totally unknown name to Frater Dantalion prior to my contacting him, but regardless, he was the new boogeyman of the hour.
And I was oddly okay with that. Andrew Bucklin has actually done some bad things, and if he was accused of a few more they honestly wouldn't make him look any worse than anything true that's been said about him. With this I thought things were settled.
I was so wrong.
I sent a reply to him, thanking him for being civil. Of course, as my then current blog entry was about how people shouldn't buy spells online and how it was stupid to do so, I decided to word my response honestly. Yet another stupid mistake of mine:
To: Frater Dantalion
From: Trae Dorn
Subject: Re: Well then.
I'm glad we could be civil about this.
Because while I don't agree with what you do, I never planned to or wanted to get into a fight with you.
I went after Fastspells.com because:
1. They were claiming to be Wiccan (which you aren't)
2. They were lying about who they were on a massive scale (which you aren't)
And again, while I may not agree with what you do, it then turns into just a philosophical issue.
When you think about it, even if I wrote something it would be a rather boring article: "This guy is exactly who he says he is, and his address is accurate! If you want to get a hold of him you can! And if he's casting those spells they're doing exactly what he's says they're doing!"
Not a whole lot of point to it. :P
I figure we can live and let live on this one. No hard feelings.
-Trae
See, the thing is everything I said in that e-mail was true. He's not pretending to be a member of my religion at all, and he does have at least a believable name (Oswald Paul Alexander Carlton) and contact information on his page. And while I think he's full of crap (presenting Cthulhu - a literary invention by H.P. Lovecraft for his horror novels - as an authentic god?) at least he was someone a wronged customer could actually track down if they needed to.
Of course, that very day, my girlfriend Crysta decided to Google my name when we were sitting down and talking about this whole incident... and she found a Rip Off Report entry (link removed) made by Dantalion. Soon thereafter we also discovered another entry as well (link removed). Dantalion had written them prior to my e-mail though, so I decided to give him the benefit of the doubt (for what possible reason, I have no idea).
So I e-mailed him this:
To: Frater Dantalion
From: Trae Dorn
Subject: Re: Well then.
Just a quick request -- could you also please remove the Rip off Reports you posted about me?
I figured we'd soon be done with this nonsense. He e-mailed me back:
To: Trae Dorn
From: Frater Dantalion
Subject: Well then.
I've now posted on ROR that Andrew Bucklin stole my identity, and exposed him as the fastspells.com scammer. I've removed my ROR page from my website for a day, after all, if they discover I've said Ed Mags needs money for body guards, rent boys and drugs it might put them off posting my comments.
And, like he said, he took down the article for a day. Then, on Rip Off Report, rebuttals came in... from Frater Dantalion... saying that I wasn't a scammer. While it is always nice to see someone arguing with himself, there is nothing stranger. The responses are available to be read on the full articles (although I've now removed the links -- sorry).
You just can't make this stuff up.
But insanity aside, I thought that things were finally over with. I thought that things had finally concluded, and that maybe I'd be finished with the whole bizarre mess.
I was wrong. See, things are NEVER over with crazy people. Dantalion decided to change his stripes (which, again, I shouldn't be surprised with as he's bat guano insane) and sent me this e-mail:
To: Trae Dorn
From: Frater Dantalion
Subject: Well then.
Sue me shag planet - ha, ha, ha, ha - ASHIA kiss, kiss, kiss
I'll blast everything thing you do into orbit.
GET out of the fucking kitchen - you'll get burnt.
I'll sent every day and night smashing you - shag planet.
Shit tank with a fat arse.
sue me pussy cat.
I sent him an e-mail that merely contained the response "What?" as I was utterly confused. But upon launching my web browser I discovered that his lovely sentiment was accompanied by this version of the now infamous article going up. Needless to say, I was fairly annoyed. After a little bit of time, I sent Dantalion this response:
To: Frater Dantalion
From: Trae Dorn
Subject: Re: Well then.
Now you've put back up an article that is full of the previously listed libelous statements.
What the heck is going on, seriously. Why are you trying to pick a fight here? What the heck is in it for you?
There is no benefit to a conflict here. You know for a fact that I am not involved in any of the things you accuse me of, and you know that I'm not behind some massive smear campaign. You write a libel filled article, then replace it with one that pretty much tries to butter me up, and then you take it down again and replace it with a version that attempts to defame me again.
What is your deal, man?
I have yet to hear a response from him. I've also written my own replies to the Rip Off Reports filed against me.
So, yes, SpellLock.com is probably the new front for Andrew Bucklin, Brittney Reynolds and Kevin Reynolds of Fastspells.com. And yes, I didn't get to do any real digging on them beyond an initial investigation. And yes, this is entirely because I was wasting time with Nutty McNutjob Frater Dantalion. And yes, it's true I would have never written a thing about this guy if he had never picked a fight with me.
What. The. Heck.
Here is the lesson for you though, if you aren't equipped to deal with full on crazy, never in a million years CONTACT the crazy person. Secondly, never try to reason with a liar. Thirdly, never deal with a crazy liar. The original article struck me as full of delusion and bizarreness, and that should have been my warning. I should have never opened this can of worms because anyone with half a brain would be able to tell that Oswald "Frater Dantalion" Carlton was as ridiculously both as they come.
Remember, you can always contact the good Frater Dantalion (according to his Nominet WHOIS information) at:
Flat 62
20 St Loyes Street
Bedford
MK40 1ZL
GB
Every internet spell caster is a scam of some sort, so please stop getting taken for a ride.
Just a Quick Video About "Faked" e-mails
Update 10/08/2008: Since I published this article on Monday, quite a bit has happened. First off, Frater Dantalion has updated his website twice to include additional nonsense. You can read my archived copy with the updates here. His accusations are literally so ridiculous that I couldn't possibly respond to all of them.
All of my copies of his website are obviously real, and I made copies because I knew he would change his site the instant I said something. I wasn't born yesterday. All the e-mails I've published are real, and I've faked absolutely nothing.
And by the way, Brittney Reynolds (besides being VERY real) is 21, not 22. Andrew Bucklin is 22.
That said, starting yesterday, I started receiving quite a few e-mails from Frater Dantalion. I have yet to reply to him, but they're an interesting read:
To: Trae Dorn
From: Frater Dantalion
Subject: Re: Well then. BON BONS
Bonjour
& wherever you are from, do you put the kettle on? ENGLAND
Knit 1, pearl one, cow 1
eat you heart out Sad WednesdayS
Me, my dad & my gran
Frates is having a Brits spheres style meltdown - whammy.
XXX
Big kisses to Ashia - what a cracking babe? & a slap on the butt for Ashra, scorching, babe too!
We are here to score 1 more than you ENGLAND
He attached a file to that one, but I didn't open it. The insanity continued only six minutes later with this:
To: Trae Dorn
From: Frater Dantalion
Subject: Re: Well then. BON BONS
It was nearly complete, it was nearly sweet
three lion on a shirt
no more years of hurt
And no, I have no idea what that means. Nine minutes later, this showed up:
To: Trae Dorn
From: Frater Dantalion
Subject: Re: Well then. BON BONS
Einstein, Newton, Shaky=sphere (even better than your Britters - only just admittedly)Thatcher etc
You don't even have blinkin'
Galileo Galilei
Here to score ONE more than you - ENGLAND
Your prob is you are a YANK.
Yuk accent.
Blurghhhhhhhh
I'd be jealous too.
FUNK SOUL brother.
It was so random, and utterly indecipherable. And he calls me a "yank." First off, I am from Wisconsin. That's in the Midwest -- the Western part of the Great Lakes region to be precise. A "Yankee" is someone from the Northeastern United States, particularly New England. Clearly he doesn't know his geography.
But Dantalion wasn't done. Almost an hour later he sent me this:
To: Trae Dorn
From: Frater Dantalion
Subject: Re: Well then. BON BONS
Trae Dorn was at the back of the queue when brains were being given out.
FUNK SOUL brother.
I don't know why he bothered to e-mail that particular quote from his webpage, but he did. I'm fairly certain, at this point, he's trying to goad me. He was quiet for a while, but this morning I found this waiting for me:
To: Trae Dorn
From: Frater Dantalion
Subject: Re: Well then. The ritual has begun
Moustaches On The Moon
Yep. Moustaches on the moon. I have no idea what that means, but... whatever. That also had an attachment that I didn't open. About six hours later he then sent me this last one:
To: Trae Dorn
From: Frater Dantalion
Subject: Re: Well then. Hold on tight for the big one :)
Please forward a nicer photo, you look like a piece of dehydrated rat's vomit gasping for breath in the current one. You are scaring my clients away.
I would like to purchase one of your love spell please.
Frates XXX
I don't know what kind of rise he expects to get out of me honestly. At this point, I'm mostly just laughing at the nonsense he's been sending to me. I don't know what strange little war he's fighting in his head, but I'm fairly certain it's the product of delusion.
(The Location He Has Listed as an Address)
Update #2 10/09/2008 Frater Dantalion must be watching this article like a hawk... a freakishly deranged scammer hawk... as he has updated his article on me yet again. In it he claims that I "faked" the e-mails yet again. Of course, I already addressed that by showing you the headers of the e-mail in the video which track the e-mail from origin to delivery. If you have problems reading them on the video, you can look more closely at them here. And yes, they will match the video if you freeze frame it. You can forge some parts of headers, like the actual "from" portion, but you can't forge the path the e-mail has taken all that easily. Because of that, if you want proof of authenticity and you've received e-mail from "Frater Dantalion" before - compare the origin headers to mine.
You'll see the e-mail came from the same place.
Dantalion also admits in this update that his address listed is a "Mail Forwarding" agency. A quick google search for his address find a "Mailboxes Etc." at the location. This, along with his no check policy, leads me to believe that "Oswald Carlton" (the name Dantalion claims is his real one) may just be another alias. I have no proof of that other than a hunch, but so far my hunches have been pretty good most of the time.
Just to put a little frosting on the cake as well, Dantalion sent me yet another e-mail yesterday:
To: Trae Dorn
From: Frater Dantalion
Subject: Re: Well then. Light the fire piano
Trailing a hoe, along the Ho Chi Minh trail.
2night there will be a feather treatment.
Frates XXX
I don't know whether to just laugh or roll my eyes at this point.
I copied and pasted the following comment from Dantalion's website:
"Trae is the evil creature who creates forums as per the Ashia Haadi report, his forums bad mouth every spell casting website on the net apart from ones owned by him."
ME:
Now, anyone with half a brain that reads that statement would wonder to themselves, "Really, mmmm...ummm...well if he bad mouths every spell casting website apart from his, than why would he bad mouth fastspells and spelllock which apparently are websites run by him?"
On a Reynolds/Bucklin note -- I want to point out that since this article went up, SpellLock.com's address has changed from 5007C Victory Blvd, #271, Yorktown, VA 23692 in Virginia to 848 N. Rainbow Blvd, #2371, Las Vegas, NV 89107 US in Nevada.
Now I'm curious. The majority of the site seems to be pretty well organized, but that one page is psychotic. Why is one section completely bat shit and the rest coherent?
Why is the scam warnings page organized as a rebuttal to a section of his own website? If these are lies, why not just erase them?
If he was that bat shit, why is the rest of the well organized?
There is a distinct difference in functionality between the two. You'll note the disorganized nature of speech in the rip-off report page, the absence of the distinctive red sigils, and the white background.
Did a different person make the rest of the site? Maybe professionally? Did this person suffer some sort of psychotic break?
You are right. The majority of FD's website is very well organized and informative. It does seem like the Response to the Rip off Report page is out of the ordinary. However, there is no doubt that it was written by FD since you have to have a password in order to log into your website and make changes. Lets just assume for the fun of it that someone actually "hijacked" his internet page and posted all of those comments. FD would have noticed it by now and deleted the page. Furthermore, FD will make it a point to update his clients or web visitors of this. I do have suspicions that FD did not post some of those comments on the Rip Off Reports based off comparisons of the name entry and because those reports are not really verified. I think thats the work of someone else who just copied and pasted the information from his website.
I would like to address the "psychotic break" question. I think he is having some sort of psychotic meltdown. Just look at the last email he sent to Trae, I mean he used words like "shag planet" and my new favorite statement of the year "shit tank with a fat arse" (I actually yelled that statement out loud at the T.V this evening when I was watching Politics.) Reading the last email sent by FD to Trae is just down right chilling. I keep reading that email over and over again trying to figure out what he is trying to say and I just can't make sense out of any of it. It's almost as if he has a bit of Paranoid Schizophrenia going on.
He has updated his web page as of today. He is now claiming that Trae is posting "doctored" versions of his web page. Say it ain't so Trae. Say it ain't so. Has Dantalion been possessed or something? For the record, Trae has not doctored any pages. That information was posted on Dantalion's website and was subsequently posted on ROR. I know that for a fact.
Maybe he's chanting some spells to you via email. He has lost his rabbit azz mind. I have read his updated webpage which shows that he still thinks its you who is behind this spell casting website scandal. Can the real owners of the websites he accuses you of owning sue him for slander or something? He's treading on thin ice.
I posted a response in regards to all of this on ROR. Hopefully they post it after midnight.
I basically think that Dantalion selected a random Username. But he did not utilize ANY Username, he made it a point to get a name from the Psychic or Spells Section of the ROR's. I think the reason he selected someone from this particular section was because he always indicates that other spell casters create havoc for their competitors on the ROR. In addition, he has been screaming for days that someone is causing him problems and bad mouthing him. He also thought this would create doubt in some of his clients minds and make them belief that someone is really out to get him. But, he did a sloppy job. He associates you with witchcraftspellsnow.com which is a spell casting website owned by TASHA PALLIDINO. You can clearly find her information all over the web. It is clear that ya'll are not associated. He made another foolish error in which the real Spoiled Brat pointed out he forgot to change the freaking country (laughing my ass off at that one) Like I said on my response on the ROR. Why would someone post under your name and admit that they are doing it, and than come back with their supposed REAL USERNAME and admit. "hey, it was me" tee-hee tee hee. Hello...are we putting 2 and 2 together yet people???
Okay, the guy's clearly delusional if he honestly believes you are connected with any of those sites. And anyone who genuinely looks through them will see that pretty much right away. The garbage he sent you, minus a few references to your actual name come off pretty much as spam email more than anything. My assumption is that he's just trying to portray himself as a lunatic so you'll be afraid of him.
My suggestion? Route all of his emails to a folder, grab snapshots of his bats*** crazy page and just generally document. Don't post any new info here for a while. Lay low. He'll probably go away once he realizes the target of his delusions isn't paying attention to him. If he's still going at it in, say, 6 months then unleash an onslaught of evidence about it and link to it on ROR. The most important part is to not react. No posts, no emails, no nothing.
Is it safe for me to assume that you took the video showing proof that the emails were from Dantalion at your house or apt? If so, than I must say that you are living rather modestly for someone who owns over 30 scam websites.
One has to ask themselves (especially if you are a client of Dantalion's) Where does he find the time to send you all these emails, update his webpage a gizillion times, and cast spells?
It looks like "Frater Dantalion" has now removed http://www.black-magic-spells.co.uk/ripoffreport.html from his webpage, as well as the link to http://www.black-magic-spells.co.uk/scam_warnings.html
Good thing you saved those pages or else you wouldn't have had any proof.
And to think I was actually going to pay my hard earned money to take one of his witchcraft courses. I am so glad this has all happened. I wish I would have received this same type of warning before wasting over $500 with fastspells.com. But thats what life is about right? It's a learning experience. We have to make mistakes in order to learn from them.
Well, there MIGHT be, but I doubt it. I will say there are probably legitimate (in the sense that they believe in what they are doing) Tarot readers, seers, psychics and the like.
Spell casters is a different thing. There's an overall attitude in most of the genuine Wiccan and Neopagan community that charging for that sort of thing is not acceptable. I will say if someone is claiming to be a Wiccan and charging money I'd be shocked to find they weren't a scam. A Wiccan might charge for a class or a workshop - or a tarot reading - but they aren't going to charge for a spell.
Most also aren't going to cast magick for a stranger either.
So, I'd say I don't expect any internet spell casters to be doing anything more than taking people's money and laughing on the way to the bank.
Funny, I went to that blog he mentioned...the list on there seems pretty similar to the one he accuses you of having something to do with...(Posts are marked from 2007)
He has updated his page once again. He claims that you are obsessed with him. He also claimed that he was going to pretend like you didn't exist anymore after Oct 9 since he has clients to tend to, but yet, he posts another silly comment on ROR and his website. Something is really wrong with that man.
You are soooo right Sultry Sceptic, that website list is very similar to what he accuses Trae of running. Dantalion documented that Trae is or has gone under the name Jens J, but Aisha Haadi has confirmed on her website that Jens J is a 33 year old living in Kiesta Sweden, married and has 2 kids. Mmmmmmm.... doesn't fit Trae's description at all.
Ironically, Dantalion documented "I hope he gets help soon" referring to Trae...Oh contraire Dantalion, WE HOPE YOU GET HELP SOON.
What sucks is that there is no legal recourse for these people in most cases. Hell, you would think all the gypsy psychics would get busted with their fraudulent activities but they are able to simply get out of town before their gig is up. On the web? Even easier.
I know everyone needs to make a living, but regardless of what you believe, its still wrong to scam people.
I've replied to any of the Rip off Reports that mentioned you saying, essentially, that all you need to do to prove who is telling the truth here is watch FD's site. Like I say on ROR, you can change your site to 'prove' your case, but you can't change your site to prove you don't change your site.
It seems, from the comments, that no one buys FD's garbage anyway, as well they shouldn't, so I guess I'm watching the drama unfold more out of shear amusement at this point than anything.
Oh, and as a spellcasting pagan I gotta agree with Trae. There's pretty much no chance any person claiming to be wiccan or neo-pagan is running a spell scam site.
Furthermore, I sincerely doubt any sites, whether or not they claim to be Wiccan, are actually genuinely doing anything, more or less anything that will actually accomplish your goal.
There are tons of pagan communities out there. If you really think a spell is what you need (I don't necessarily agree with you, but hey go for it), make some friends there and see if somewhere along the line someone will help you. They'll have a lot of discussion about the ethics of your intended working, and chances are they will probably spend a lot of time trying to get you to solve your problem through other means.
Most witches/pagans are in it for the religion and view spells as a sort of prayer, but with more of a component of personal will. That's why it isn't likely to do much, even if they are legitimate spell casters. It's their will not yours and even if they really really want to help, it's still not the same as your desire for it to work.
Now, there are mystical traditions outside of Wicca, but their practitioners are pretty few and far between and they are ususally pretty secretive. So chances are, they won't be running spells for hire sites either. As a religious neo-pagan, I question their ethics as well.
I'm happy to help research some more of these. It's utterly fascinating.
FD has been quiet lately...surprised his site is still up. Isn't this usually when the sites are taken down? Fastspells is down for maintenance and everything, alas...
Well, with Fastspells.com the site got thousands of views from the Consumerist. This time around, we just had my audience... plus, we still really don't know who is on the other end of the e-mail address in this case.
FD has now posted a comment indicating that Meep is Trae, and that he will be sending a picture of Trae to ROR so he can be avoided in the streets. I seriously doubt anyone actually believes this man. What trips me out is the fact that he goes on and on about Trae owning all of these websites, and how everyone who says anything negative about him is automatically Trae but doesn't provide any proof what so ever. It's a bunch of heresay. I'm with Trae, I don't know whether to just laugh or roll my eyes at this point.
What a horrible picture of me. I believe that was in the autograph line for Tiffany Grant back at the last WestCon (may it rest in peace). I gotta say, we had quite the operation for being entirely auxilliary to the con itself.
"Mandy" and "Belly Boy" have been proven to be the same individual on ROR (Dantalion) I found it quite interesting that this Mandy person spelled the word "realize" as "realise" which is evidence that the person who wrote the report is from the UK although they claim to be from New Orleans.
Dantalion has been really quiet on these issues of late. It's kinda nice actually. Let's hope he was arrested (that's not wishing ill on others, btw, it's quite literally what he deserves).
So a fond farewell to unrestrained crazy, I hope.
BTW, I'm beginning to suspect his emails were a sad attempt at scaring you into thinking he was casting black magic curses on you. Or perhaps he's just crazy. Or C. All of the above.
This was supposed to be the promised part 3 to my series on Internet Spell Casters. It was supposed to be a long article on SpellLock.com, a site which I believe to be the current scam run by the illustrious Fastspells.com gang. I wasn't given the opportunity to write that article though... because my time was taken up by a rather frustrating series of events caused by another spell casting website.
Dantalion also admits in this update that his address listed is a "Mail Forwarding" agency. A quick google search for his address find a "Mailboxes Etc." at the location. This, along with his no check policy, leads me to believe that "Oswald Carlton" (the name Dantalion claims is his real one) may just be another alias. I have no proof of that other than a hunch, but so far my hunches have been pretty good most of the time.
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